In the third and fourth segments of this four-part interview, Billy X, a long-time member of the Black Panther Party (BPP), talks to Kakoli Mitra about the pivotal events of 1965, which spurred the formation of the BPP in 1966. He elaborates on a few of the differences between BPP and other Afro-American movements of the 1960s, such as that of Dr. Martin Luther King. According to Billy X, BPP wanted a total transformation of the American system; they didn’t want partial change. They wanted to change the system of capitalism, because they didn’t believe that it serves the majority of the people. Billy X describes some of the many ways in which the BPP empowered the Black community. For example, reading was a requirement to be a part of BPP because being informed was important in community organizing. Billy X saw BPP not only giving people power and hope for change but also demonstrating a path on how to do this. BPP set an example for how to transform the Afro-American community, including mobilizing widespread support and appreciation for the BPP’s numerous social programs, such as the free breakfast program for children, transportation to upstate prisons for family members of inmates, classes on politics and economics, and free medical clinics.